tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5261923494451820843.post5104335798400382179..comments2023-12-22T10:05:42.994-05:00Comments on Put Up Your Dukes: Viley Vyrus at the VMAskeight dukeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04887072283297653771noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5261923494451820843.post-18042552043467494502013-08-31T14:44:16.903-04:002013-08-31T14:44:16.903-04:00Ditto all that. I think this brought Mr. Thicke to...Ditto all that. I think this brought Mr. Thicke to a low point, too. A 30-something married man with a child singing those lyrics while having what I perceive to be a troubled young woman making bad choices by, among other things, simulating with him, was a very bad choice for him, too. I wouldn't think that this is the image he wants for himself. ICK!Heather Ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10225483666564626507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5261923494451820843.post-48535773455549119262013-08-29T20:57:10.162-04:002013-08-29T20:57:10.162-04:00Came across this today....
http://www.christianity...Came across this today....<br />http://www.christianitytoday.com/women/2013/august/jesus-loves-miley-cyrus-vmas.htmlChanelle Bouwmeesterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06285925211739773598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5261923494451820843.post-75016556130203855092013-08-29T20:48:26.517-04:002013-08-29T20:48:26.517-04:00Also... in the aftermath, no one talks about how b...Also... in the aftermath, no one talks about how bad her hair was. Maybe she was overcompensating by being slutty so we wouldn't attack her hair? Instead, her character was attacked lolSHOBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12619890942936147416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5261923494451820843.post-1873068123577094292013-08-27T23:52:03.970-04:002013-08-27T23:52:03.970-04:00This marks my 3rd attempt in leaving a reply. The ...This marks my 3rd attempt in leaving a reply. The first tool way too long... So here is the short and short of it. Your wit and humor and self deprecation is often used to ground me (and others) in truth and Christ. You had a knee jerk reaction to an inexcusably vulgar display, by someone in a public sphere with too much sway over impressionable minds. It may have been a little bashy, but the moral outrage is within reason. She is not just denigrating her self, but the influence is so far reaching. Having taught high school recently, so many of these kids, especially with questionable home lives are just leaves in the wind, so easily tossed about by negative role models. There is no doubt Satan is using her as a platform. If a hurting Miley read this, it might be the catalyst she needed. I doubt she will though :)<br />The only perfect person was Christ. We all make mistakes, at least yours are filled with spot-on puns. Betsyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08164338748942349594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5261923494451820843.post-73803944871544343472013-08-27T15:43:59.812-04:002013-08-27T15:43:59.812-04:00 I think that she accomplished exactly what she wa... I think that she accomplished exactly what she wanted. <br />Makes me sad for her. Satan feeds us some lies complete with caviar and served on a golden spoon... making them simply too much too resist. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5261923494451820843.post-32712582232978802142013-08-27T12:26:18.494-04:002013-08-27T12:26:18.494-04:00I feel like fame just ruins people sometimes. And...I feel like fame just ruins people sometimes. And the VMAs love to be controversial. The song is about doing whatever you want... and then blurred lines. It's awful that we are so desensitized that you have to shock everyone to have entertainment. As a famous person, even bad press is press. People are talking about something, so you're getting attention. I'm sure she knew there would be fall out. She probably feels so awesome with all the backlash. I could not believe all the tongue and gyrating... her crotch almost popped out multiple times (shutter). It just looked so trashy :-( And she's better than that. SHOBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12619890942936147416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5261923494451820843.post-61418654812513916952013-08-27T09:54:17.358-04:002013-08-27T09:54:17.358-04:00no it's absolutely okay. you are 100% right! y...no it's absolutely okay. you are 100% right! you are NOT being too hard on me and i totally agree that i went too far with the "jokes" and the exaggerations.<br /><br />i did have a big change of heart last night, and i hope you read my updates and the follow up comments regarding my regret at being so harsh to/about an actual human girl. <br /><br />for some reason i didnt think it counted as bullying since she is a celebrity but you are ABSOLUTELY right that it is and i DO NOT want to be a part of that.<br /><br />i am not going to delete my original remarks because i dont want to just pretend like i didnt make a mistake, but i do apologize for attacking (even under the auspices of joking) another human.<br /><br />thanks for being so well spoken and kind in your criticism!keight dukeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04887072283297653771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5261923494451820843.post-65742860760396288892013-08-27T07:44:28.323-04:002013-08-27T07:44:28.323-04:00I agree with the additional problem of racism that...I agree with the additional problem of racism that was displayed. I was very uncomfortable with how she was treating her backup dancers bodies (just in general and with the added problem of a rich white woman doing those things to a black woman as if she was simply a prop).<br /><br />We clearly have different views on sexual empowerment. I'm not claiming she was forced to do anything but rather mourning the fact that those were her choices made in freedom..<br /><br /><br /><br />I disagree that associating her behavior with stds and satan is uncalled for. If you know my perspective you know that I believe wounds and lies that lead people away from Jesus are from satan. I am in NO WAY calling her satan. I thought that was clear. <br /><br />And I think it IS fair to associate stds with drug-using, hard-partying, "do who we want to" lifestyle that she is so obviously claiming to be a part of.<br /><br />It did sound like blame at first and that's why I wanted to be clear to show a deeper perspective than my flippant sarcastic grossed out one by saying my enemy in this isn't a 20 year old girl. It's satan. He gets all the blame.keight dukeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04887072283297653771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5261923494451820843.post-17928628791247469342013-08-27T01:57:50.394-04:002013-08-27T01:57:50.394-04:00To be honest, this treatment of the whole VMAs deb...To be honest, this treatment of the whole VMAs debacle was more than a little slut shame-y. Yes, her performance was disturbing, but not because she was promiscuous. That, in and of itself, is nothing to be ashamed about--it's eyebrow raising that Robin Thicke was involved and I was definitely weirded out, but throughout it all she maintained a sense of agency that is often missing in many "tamer" stars' acts. Everything she did was her choice. She was the instigator in her most provocative moments, not a passive doll in the background. Now, considering that she's 20, it's right for her to be able to make that choice, but of course it was a questionable one.<br />Don't think that I support what she was doing. It was incredibly racist. Appropriating "ratchet" culture as a white woman and using Black woman's bodies as oversexualized props is horrific for anyone to do, much less in such a public domain and with such a young following. And especially when she's using that small, heavily stereotyped subsection of Black culture to further her career and make money.<br />But connecting her actions to STDs and Satan is uncalled for. You say that you want to shower her with love and grace, but from here it sounds a lot like blame.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5261923494451820843.post-27926126110352982032013-08-26T23:21:58.826-04:002013-08-26T23:21:58.826-04:00PS You don't have to post that if you don'...PS You don't have to post that if you don't want - should have sent a direct message instead of a comment anyways.Adamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5261923494451820843.post-26372750854275235782013-08-26T23:21:06.791-04:002013-08-26T23:21:06.791-04:00I agree with everything except the "joke"...I agree with everything except the "joke" that maybe you wish she'd die. If we're going to throw around hyperbole like "it's a sad world we live in" because a 20-year-old has made a very poor decision (and a bunch of adults broadcast it to the world), then I'd argue that it's a much sadder world that good people are unwittingly pushing the boundaries of decency thru the impersonal, remote, and often anonymous internet medium. Forget miley cyrus, this is what our society has gotten to? That the Christian mom blogger, who is taking the moral high road, is calling somebody "Vyrus" and making jokes that they should die? Not trying to be too hard on you Keight, but I think online bullying is a major problem and letting even the seemingly innocent jokes like yours pass by unchallenged is a small part of the problem.Adamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5261923494451820843.post-18874531500167313262013-08-26T21:29:58.917-04:002013-08-26T21:29:58.917-04:00i totally agree with this!
i worried that my knee...i totally agree with this!<br /><br />i worried that my knee-jerk, over-the-top, sarcastic reactions to the behavior might be taken this way and might not be the best show of grace to the person herself(like would i EVER talk about someone i knew who was struggling like this in this way? nope. no way). its almost like i dont think she is a real person. i think this might be a problem that she has too right now.<br /><br />i actually read a really great perspective today on this thing and why it is getting to a lot of women particularly: http://t.co/MnWFP9fEen (i was a very similar 20 year old actually and i hate that i waste my life and purity on these things...so i share that hatred towards someone i see making the same-ish mistakes. logical? probably not).<br /><br />her behavior? vile. straight up. the consequences of some of those behaviors: viruses. but youre totally right it's the lie she is hearing or the wound she is suffering from that i should use my "free kill" and zingers on and not the 20 year old girl herself. <br /><br />thank you so much for bringing up this perspective in love! i am 100% with you. my cutting remarks are directed at the behavior and the liar, not the girl who took the apple because she believed his lie that it was a better option than what god had for her.<br /><br />thank you sister!<br /><br />keight dukeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04887072283297653771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5261923494451820843.post-33274877181606257292013-08-26T20:27:39.272-04:002013-08-26T20:27:39.272-04:00I completely agree: Miley's behavior on the sh...I completely agree: Miley's behavior on the show was totally and completely inappropriate. I do feel, however, that as older Christian women (granted, I'm only 24!), our reaction shouldn't be to call her names or speak harshly against her as a person, but rather, to attempt to understand what is causing her to act this way. She obviously wants attention, and we can all agree that this is certainly not a healthy way to garner attention. To me, her behavior indicates that something may be going on at a heart level, and if that's the case, we should be speaking words of grace and love over her, not calling her vile or wishing death upon her. Yes, I understand that your words may be spoken tongue-in-cheek, but honestly, how does that remark reflect the love that Christ has for this young girl? You state later in your post that you feel sadness for her, but at that point, all I could see was your overwhelming disgust not for Miley's moves or behavior, but for the person Miley is portraying herself to be. <br />This saying is so trite, and I hate to employ it here, but while we may hate Miley's behavior, we're called to love her. Let's strive to ensure that our speech and criticism discussing the event don't become malicious words attacking a young, possibly hurting girl.Kainoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5261923494451820843.post-60997969223365697332013-08-26T14:56:30.025-04:002013-08-26T14:56:30.025-04:00I echo Will Smith's reaction. Super sad for ev...I echo Will Smith's reaction. Super sad for everyone who helped make that happen. We can't put all the blame on Miley....there are so many other people who made that performance possible. Obviously the network didn't care about the content otherwise they would've taken action and not allowed the broadcast of her performance to continue. It's a sad world we live in....I pray that God will help me guide my children in the right direction but ultimately they will one day be making decisions on their own. Hopefully the right ones.Chanelle Bouwmeesterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06285925211739773598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5261923494451820843.post-4674282321552291242013-08-26T12:00:30.047-04:002013-08-26T12:00:30.047-04:00I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit. ...I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit. I would say that Britney was doing it just for shock too, and it was icky, but not this icky. I'm almost more disappointed in Robin Thicke though. What the heck was he thinking??? He looked like her pimp. Uggh. Miley is young, naïve and most likely taking someone's stupid advice so as sad as it was it wasn't as bad in my mind as a supposed mature adult participating in that debacle. And you keep your child from lionizing this crap by doing what you are doing - giving an example of a healthy relationship with God in it. Giving her boundaries and as she gets older talking about stuff like this as it happens - because trust me, there's no way to completely protect them from seeing this stuff as they get older. I know mine saw stuff we wouldn't have allowed at our house at their friends. Keep the communications lines open - why you don't allow certain things, but being open to discussing what's out there. Often my kids would let me know what they ran into or it's in the media anyway, so it opens up the door to talk about it. Sorry, that was long-winded. And I have to say, maybe I'm totally out of it, but what was with the teddy bears with the tongue hanging out? That was also disturbing to me...Alicia Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01145361396190705397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5261923494451820843.post-16119630361984158402013-08-26T10:51:02.109-04:002013-08-26T10:51:02.109-04:00I didn't watch it live. Only on the internet ...I didn't watch it live. Only on the internet today. It was horrible. I agree, I felt overwhelmingly sad for her. Tracyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14798842025735776242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5261923494451820843.post-65403145854832855982013-08-26T10:50:59.020-04:002013-08-26T10:50:59.020-04:00This: http://dailycaller.com/2013/08/25/smith-fami...This: http://dailycaller.com/2013/08/25/smith-family-reaction-sums-up-miley-cyrus-vmas-performance/<br /><br />is how I felt. I couldn't even watch the whole thing. <br />Lenahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12803146427726242723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5261923494451820843.post-52473460313688426652013-08-26T10:35:56.797-04:002013-08-26T10:35:56.797-04:00Sooooooooo good! And it's gone so far now that...Sooooooooo good! And it's gone so far now that his example if the Jonas brothers is already out of date bc I look back on them as smart and classy. Oh my.keight dukeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04887072283297653771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5261923494451820843.post-91891618173327682632013-08-26T09:58:22.890-04:002013-08-26T09:58:22.890-04:00At first I thought I would show a link to Elvis sh...At first I thought I would show a link to Elvis shaking his pelvis and... say something about how its relative and blah blah blah. But then I remembered this, and I like it. <br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aSvaguadW4Tatum.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15739907440874206157noreply@blogger.com